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  1. Distant Lover

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    USA TODAY 8:01 p.m. EDT June 9, 2016

    Donald Trump casts himself as a protector of workers and jobs, but a USA TODAY NETWORK investigation found hundreds of people – carpenters, dishwashers, painters, even his own lawyers – who say he didn’t pay them for their work.

    During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah's at Trump Plaza.

    The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edward’s father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resort’s builder.

    Edward’s son, Paul, who was the firm’s accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. The reason: the money never came. “That began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Company… which has been around since my grandfather,” he said.

    Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.
     
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    That's not an exclusive, puppydog.

    It's been playing in the WSJ for weeks.

    No one cares except moonbat socialist sycophants to Comrade Vladimir Lenin.
     
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      And the people who lost money to him for the goods and services they provided.
       
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  3. Distant Lover

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    When I think you can't get any lower you descend to a new depth. :arghh:

    Capitalism depends on trust.

    I think the people Trump stiffed, many of whom are business owners, do care. I doubt that many of them are "moonbat socialist sycophants to Comrade Vladimir Lenin."

    I am glad that The Wall Street Journal is covering this. This will hurt Trump with an important Republican constituency.
     
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  4. clarise

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    They're covering it from the "lots of sour grapes" angle, which is exactly where it belongs.

    Obviously he's paying someone, because the world lines up to do business with him. Some people don't get paid. Some get nickel and dimed.

    So he runs a tight ship? So what?

    As opposed to sending the Pentagon a $500 invoice for a fucking toilet seat with the absolute assurance that some mindless apparatchik will mail back a certified check?

    Like I said: no one cares. No one except mindless apparatchiks.

    This reminds me of the bullshit about how awful a businessman he is, because he's had four or five bankruptcies. Out of four hundred fifty companies.

    Crooked Hillary and Spreading Bull Warren are going to have to get a new game. This tactic of throwing shit at the wall is going to do just one thing: continue to lift his numbers.
     
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    Make no mistake about it. This is an issue Hillary Clinton will take and run with. The only people who care about missing e-mails and Benghazi are case hardened Clinton haters who looked for excuses to hate Bill Clinton during the peace and prosperity of the first Clinton administration.

    Refusing to pay employees and vendors is an issue Trump's core constituency can understand and identify with.
     
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    This is going to be a dirty campaign. Most mainstream journalists do not like Trump. They are going to be digging for dirt about him. Their shovels will be full.

    The Clinton haters have pretty well shot their bolt. Unless they can come up with a completely new scandal, they have nothing. Those of us who intend to vote for Hillary have the attitude, "We know. We don't care. We are going to vote for her anyway."
     
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  7. Distant Lover

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    Refusing to pay an employee because the boss does not like his performance is not acceptable business practice. If the boss does not like his employee's performance he can fire him, but the boss still has to pay the employee for the hours he put in.

    Telling an employee after an assignment has been finished, "I am not satisfied with what you did so you won't get paid," does not satisfy a judge or very many voters.
     
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    From the thread: A little history


    Which is the exact same reason USA Today has been digging in Trump's trash. Because Trump became the presumptive nominee a long time ago, and Hillary STILL has an opponent in the primary race, when everyone had started celebrating the exact before the primaries even started. Hillary was supposed to have been crowned months ago, and the GOP crowded field of 17 had their primary season ending sometime in 2018, the way some people talked.

    And that Inspector General's report showing that Hillary couldn't tell the truth if she had a gun to her head. How else are they going to distract the electorate if not by printing stories from 1984. (Remember when they went back to Mitt's high school days and one immature prank by A GROUP had him cast as a violent thug and that one haircut somehow established "a pattern of behavior".)

    Yep, and I think you once referred to Benghazi as "old news" or "ancient history" or something like that. So, 2012 is ancient history. But you love reading about "1984". (Hmmmm...1984. What a coincidence.)

    Exactly! And one of those "important things" is making sure we don't end up with a third term of "stagnant or declining incomes", as well as making sure we don't experience another "75 months of private sector job growth" of part-time and/or minimum-wage McJobs. And since the Inspector General's Obama-appointed hater's report is in the here and now, check out that wall.

    throwing stuff at the wall and it stuck - hillary.jpg



    Inspector general’s email report lists Hillary Clinton’s misstatements of key facts


    By The Associated Press |May 27, 2016 |

    Over the months, Hillary Clinton misstated key facts about her use of private email and her own server for her work as secretary of state, the department’s inspector general reported this week.

    According to the findings, she claimed approval she didn’t have and declined to be interviewed for the report despite saying “I’m more than ready to talk to anybody anytime.” Scrutiny of her unusual email practices appeared to be unwelcome, despite her contention those practices were well known and “fully above board.”

    A look at some of Clinton’s past claims about her unusual email set-up and how they compare with the inspector general’s findings:

    CLINTON: “The system we used was set up for President Clinton’s office. And it had numerous safeguards. It was on property guarded by the Secret Service. And there were no security breaches.” — March 2015 press conference.

    THE REPORT: Evidence emerged of hacking attempts, though it’s unclear whether they were successful.

    On Jan. 9, 2011, an adviser to former President Bill Clinton notified the State Department’s deputy chief of staff for operations that he had to shut down the server because he suspected “someone was trying to hack us and while they did not get in i didnt (sic) want to let them have the chance to.”

    Later that day, he sent another note. “We were attacked again so I shut (the server) down for a few min.”

    The following day the deputy chief emailed top Clinton aides and instructed them not to email the secretary “anything sensitive.”

    Also in May 2011, Clinton told aides that someone was “hacking into her email,” after she received a message with a suspicious link, the new audit report said.

    The Associated Press has previously reported that, according to detailed records compiled in 2012, Clinton’s server was connected to the internet in ways that made it more vulnerable to hackers. It appeared to allow users to connect openly over the internet to control it remotely.

    Moreover, it’s unclear what protection her email system might have achieved from having the Secret Service guard the property. Digital security breaches tend to come from computer networks, not over a fence.

    CLINTON: “What I did was allowed. It was allowed by the State Department. The State Department has confirmed that.” — AP interview, September.

    THE REPORT: “No evidence” that Clinton asked for or received approval to conduct official government business on a personal email account run through a private server in her New York home. According to top State Department officials interviewed for the investigation, the departments that oversee security “did not — and would not — approve” her use of a personal account because of security concerns.

    Clinton has changed her account since the report came out. On Thursday, she told CNN “I thought it was allowed. I knew past secretaries of state used personal email.”

    Colin Powell was the only secretary of state who used personal email for work, but not to the extent she did, and he did not use a private server.

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    CLINTON: “It was fully above board. Everybody in the government with whom I emailed knew that I was using a personal email.” — AP interview, September.

    CLINTON: “The people in the government knew that I was using a personal account . the people I was emailing to on the dot gov system certainly knew and they would respond to me on my personal email.” — NBC News interview, September.

    THE REPORT: According to the findings, it’s unclear how widespread knowledge was about Clinton’s use of a personal account. Though Clinton’s use of a private email was discussed with some in her agency, senior department officials who worked for her, including the undersecretary responsible for security, said they were not asked to approve or review the use of her private server.

    The officials also said they were “unaware of the scope or extent” of her email practices, even though Clinton exchanged hundreds of thousands of messages with people in government from her personal account.

    CLINTON: “In the fall, I think it was October of last year (2014), the State Department sent a letter to previous secretaries of state asking for help with their record-keeping, in part because of the technical problems that they knew they had to deal with. And they asked that we, all of us, go through our e-mails to determine what was work-related and to provide that for them.” — NBC News, September.

    THE REPORT: While it’s true that the State Department requested records from former secretaries of state in November 2014, the report says the department raised concerns about Clinton’s compliance with federal record-keeping laws years earlier, and the attention did not appear welcome.

    Two employees in the Office of Information Resources Management discussed concerns about her use of a personal email account in separate 2010 meetings. One of the employees stressed in one of the meetings that the information being transmitted needed to be preserved to satisfy federal records laws.

    They were instructed by the director of the department “never to speak of the Secretary’s personal email system again,” according to the report.

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    CLINTON: “I think last August I made it clear I’m more than ready to talk to anybody anytime. — CBS News interview in May.

    THE REPORT: Clinton declined through her lawyer to be interviewed for the report. Four other secretaries of state participated: John Kerry, Madeleine Albright, Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell. She now says: “everything I had to say was out there.”

    But she has said she will speak to the FBI as part of a separate criminal investigation into possible security breaches related to her private server.

    In October, she testified about the issue before the House committee investigating the 2012 Benghazi attacks.
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    Hey that will make him a great Pres., for years USA didn't pay their UN dues until they were threaten with loss of their Security seat.
     
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  10. RandyKnight

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    Ok so I guess which slime ball I am going to vote for....................

    The slime ball who wants to continue to take this place down the drain.....or
    the one who wants to do what I been thinking we need......

    Yep...Trump it is....

    I will vote for the one who see the 50+ murders today a problem with Islamist radicals...
    Not the one that thinks it is the gun problem...................
     
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  11. FeltPlay

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    Getting scared DL? The Trump reality starting to set in? Your sweet Hillary is going down...and not on Bill.
     
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  12. anon_de_plume

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    Really? Who? Seems to me every deal he makes he insists on changing at the last minute. Those people who were early buyers for the Trump condos here in Chicago, got told before they moved in that the deal was changing, and that they would be charged thousands of dollars more than the original agreement.

    But then again, I'm sure that you see this as " being a shrewd business man...
     
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  13. anon_de_plume

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    Do you have some proof that that is the number of businesses he has started?

    Also, why is he hesitant to release his tax returns? Might it be because he doesn't want to disclose how much he's actually worth?
     
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  14. Distant Lover

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    He is probably not as rich as he claims to be. There may be years when he paid little or nothing in income taxes.
     
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  15. Distant Lover

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    clarise cannot tell the difference between being a shrewd business man and a dishonest business man. clarise's hero Ayn Rand said people should do what is in their self interest. A man who becomes rich through dishonest means and gets away with it has lived as Ayn Rand recommends.
     
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    Rasmussen Reports June 09, 2016

    The latest Rasmussen Reports weekly White House Watch survey shows Clinton taking a four-point lead over Trump – 42% to 38% - among Likely U.S. Voters. Fifteen percent (15%) still prefer some other candidate, while five percent (5%) remain undecided.

    A week ago, it was Clinton 39%, Trump 38%.

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    Of the various polls Rasmussen and Fox are most likely to exaggerate Republican strength.

    I predict that is more is revealed about Trump his support will decline. Everything has been revealed about Hillary Clinton, and she is still ahead in most polls.

    Of course, a wave of terrorist attacks by Muslims could change that in Trump's favor.
     
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  17. anon_de_plume

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    John Galt is fictional, he does not exist in the real world. Anyone that worships Any Rand is delusional.
     
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  18. Distant Lover

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    Trump might even be in debt. Wouldn't that be hilarious? :D
     
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      They'll find a "rational" explanation to excuse him...
       
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  19. FeltPlay

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    We will see brother...one of us is sure to be disappointed come election.
     
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  20. Distant Lover

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    If Donald Trump is elected president I predict that you will be more disappointed with him than I have been with Obama.

    Trump has made bizarre promises that no sensible person can believe he can deliver on. He has promised to cut taxes for every income group and to pay off the national debt in eight years. All Reagan promised was to balance the budget by 1983. He of course could not do that.

    Then there is that wall with Mexico. Does anyone seriously believe that he will be able to get Mexico to pay for it? He promises to destroy ISIS. That will take increases in military spending.
     
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